Southern Minnesota MI Policy (Updated!)

Lurin

Paragon
After Careful consideration our Magic item transfer policy will be as follows below.

Restricted MIs - All Restricted MIs, creatable by the current system will transfer in freely with no limits. Please note that individual items with excessive, non-standard, or clearly exceptionally modified flaws (Such as having 1 once ever cloaks etc.) may be refused on a case by case basis.

Non - SoMN LCO Items

The 'Mist Cave' is no longer generally available for attunements OR questions, attempts to locate them will fail (excluding potential future plots.)

1.) All items currently attuned, continue to be attuned and transfer freely.
2.) Non-Attuned items no longer come in as 'unpowered' shadow versions of themselves, an unattuned item now simply fail to transfer in, the item returning when the character exists the mist.
3.) Each PC attending the event as such may attune a single item, of no more than 15 years of effects each game, these should be noted and registered at logistics.
4.) Attunement Coins, and Attunement Gifts work as follows, each token/coin may be used for an addition 6 years (equal to it's current value). Attunement Gifts may be used as normal until September 1st, after that point unused Gifts will be converted to a new type of token that is worth 30 Years of effects for attunements.
5.) Additional Coins/Tokens of varying value may continue to be dropped as LCO loot.

Clarifications

To determine the 'years of effects' take the remaining length of each effect and add them together. So a 3x Cure Light wounds spell that lasts 2.5 more years would be an 8 year item (always round up.) With the below modifications

1.) 9th level spells, (spell strikes or expanded enchants) Count as 3 TIMES their length of effect.
2.) Arcane Armor, and Time Ever effects count as 0 years (they are free.
3.) All permanent effects count as '10 year' effects.
4.) You always round the total UP to the nearest year, there are no partial year effects.
5.) You cannot, in anyway 'Pool' your attunement years.
6.) You may only completely attune a single item per event, regardless of size, this includes AA/Times ever items with a cost of 0

Next up - You must attune the ENTIRE item at once, for items last more than 15 years, you must register the tag at logistics/pre-reg as 'being attuned' once the number of events*15 years, is more than the item's total effects, it will then be attuned. YOU CANNOT SAVE UP YEARS without specifying a specific, already existing and possessed item.

We will be starting this system with out upcoming May Event, All PCs entering the lands will intrinsically feel they can bring a single item with them. All items attuned by this method, are then forever attuned and may be brought in under the same restrictions as we apply to restricted items.
 
I like it.
 
Can you give a more complex example using some of the weirder rules? Just so we can makes sure we are calculating correctly.
 
(Expiration - Game Date [Or 10 if permanent])*(Effects+2*9th level spells-1*evers & arcane armors)
/15 = games required to attune item.

A 20 rit with no 9th levels or AAs would require 13 games to attune. More with 9th levels, less with an AA.

6.) You may only completely attune a single item per event, regardless of size, this includes AA/Times ever items with a cost of 0
Am I understanding correctly that my AA and all my 1/e from Chicago, that previously walked into the game and have been at previous games are now being blocked and I can only bring 1 in at a time per game? I mean, there's no record of AA only items and 1/e from before this change.

Paige granted me a boon at Lord Grey's Feast in November 2 years ago. She then granted me another boon last year at Tanadoona when she brought all of the travelling adventurers outside the tavern. I doubt these instances have been recorded, is that correct?
 
I'll be glad to give an Example.

Barrister Bluewater, tired of using spells on minor cuts and illnesses from his Gypsy Fiancee's poorly planned attempts to cook, donates a Van wraped with Paul F.'s Face and the Phrase - "Wayside Larp...awwwwww-YEAH!' and uses the resulting goblins to buy the following.

The Azure Kah-Nife (Knife)
Rep - A hella fancy Dagger with blue/grey designs
Effects
Level 2 PA (Keeps the fingers from bleeding)
2x Cloak Alteration (for poorly cooked dishes)
15 Point suit of AA (Hey she's raising Werebear babies right?)
10x ever Purifies (to deal with spoiled ingrediants)
Item Recall (Regan Bluewater)
Preserve (fresh)

This gives us a 4 effect item (the PA, each cloak, and the item recall) as the times ever and AA does not count toward the total. Since the preserve is fresh the item lasts 5 years, giving us a 4 (effects) x 5 (duration) = 20 year item. So I'd need a 5+ year token to add on top of the 15 to attune it all at once, or attune it over 2 events.




Davion said:
A 20 rit with no 9th levels or AAs would require 13 games to attune. More with 9th levels, less with an AA.

That's correct, without tokens it will be very time consuming to attune an LCO 20 rit item that is permanent.

Davion said:
6.) You may only completely attune a single item per event, regardless of size, this includes AA/Times ever items with a cost of 0
Am I understanding correctly that my AA and all my 1/e from Chicago, that previously walked into the game and have been at previous games are now being blocked and I can only bring 1 in at a time per game? I mean, there's no record of AA only items and 1/e from before this change.
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If you have failed to pre-reg your LCO AAs and Once evers you've brought into game, you've been cheating and this policy won't change that I suppose. If you have Pre-reged them, we have that data, in the event we don't have that data, it is fairly easy to determine when an MI tag was created and should likely be already attuned.

Davion said:
Paige granted me a boon at Lord Grey's Feast in November 2 years ago. She then granted me another boon last year at Tanadoona when she brought all of the travelling adventurers outside the tavern. I doubt these instances have been recorded, is that correct?

I'll check with Paige, All single use "boons" were intended to be used immediately, or at the next event (so people could choose an item they had, but didn't have with them that event as it doesn't travel.) We recognize this was not made as clear as we might have liked, thus the 3 month window to use them before they get converted to 50 year tokens instead. We definitely want to avoid the issue where 3 years from now a player sells something no longer available to fast track a 20 rit item, as that was not the intent. However the 50 year tokens should provide a fair amount of value to PCs that were intending something along those lines.

On a larger matter, if you have anything Logistical that you don't feel is being tracked, the correct process is to shoot a note to logistics to verify that we capture that information, not sit on it until you decide to use it years in the future. Our all volunteer staff works as hard as possible to track everything but we aren't perfect and we expect a basic level of sportsmanship from our players to help keep things tracked and updated and are always eager to verify and make sure things get recorded if they've been missed.

Ultimately if you feel that any mistakes in tracking (which seems to be your principle concern here) are going to result in our staff intentionally "screwing" you out of what you are due, I feel you are doing a disservice to the people that are volunteering their time and ask that you bring future concerns of that nature directly to myself, or a member of my staff so we can address them.
 
What if your The Azure Kah-Nife (Knife) only had 3 years 5 months left? would that be 4 (effects) x41/12 (Months left divided by months in a year) =13.6666667=14?
 
Lurin said:
Ultimately if you feel that any mistakes in tracking (which seems to be your principle concern here) are going to result in our staff intentionally "screwing" you out of what you are due, I feel you are doing a disservice to the people that are volunteering their time and ask that you bring future concerns of that nature directly to myself, or a member of my staff so we can address them.

Sorry, me putting my foot in my mouth again. From my previous experiences, I never got the impression there was any tracking of attuned items, I thought you were primarily going by the honor system. I shouldn't have said there was no record of those items, that should have been a question.

I'm not worried about you screwing me out of attunements or whatever, I was trying to point out any hiccups that might be encountered before the game when everybody is busy with things.

When Paige granted me my boons, I had her do the one boon (for the two pearl earrings) on the spot. I just assumed since there was no follow up that there was no actual record of anything being attuned and you were going by the honor system. From my perspective, she attuned like a dozen items without recording anything and no announcement was made about it. I've never heard anything about following up with logistics when we get things attuned, either.

The attunement system has been and still continues to be "mistical" to those of us without many details.
 
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