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No you didnt, I just wanted to make it more clear I was not calling people out for intentional metagaming. It is one of those things that people do without thinking about, they know there is a rogue on the field that does 20s from behind and forget that the npc they are playing doesnt know that.

Let me be more clear, I dont think they are doing it on purpose, I think it is more an unconscious action/habit.

Nah, I see them looking for me in teh back field from the get go, esp after respawns if I killed some of them. They will give there back to a fighter swinging 8-10 to not let me hit 20s. Before I have hit them. This always has been and always will be an issue. It was when I played a rogue in the...

Okay, that I like alot more. Though is alot more mental math for npcs. I went rogue for 2.0 after getting in shape, and as a reason to stay in shape. But I think it is probably one of the hardest RL skill classes to play. And some of the "upper" teir effects are underwhelming. After play...

This worked this way in 1.3. I generally agree with this. Though I think it is somewhat chapter based. In the NW we have alot of open field battles, which helps. But I do agree in line fights, hallway fights, mods in general it can be very hard to be effective or even useful sometimes. I...

I agree it should be 1 build too. We have found common ground....

Cause waylay wont cause this issue already, I can generate 23 paralysis and 10 dooms alreadly if I want too. this would only give me 6 more dooms.

I actually dont hate this idea. Something cool and good, but not the same as fighter style captstone. Would it need 180 in stealth to buy then?

I agree I find weapon doom uninteresting, esp when I get weapon sleep/paralysis for less then half the cost. I would be totally onboard with removing it and letting me get double the assassinates. Also it would make the classes more different. Which I dig.

That is kinda my thought, Still think that means I sell back all but one of them though. Which is disappointing.

Yeah, new mechanics seem unlikely to pass any sort of vote, imo.

My only issue with that is it would be something not currently in the rules so unlikely to happen.

I can attest it is, also it should really not be a feature of any skill to give points for another class imo. X Vengeance would be a good call. That said I dont want this because it means NPCs will have access to it. Which would get old fast for people.

I would love to see riposte made into a rogue skill or a version that is stealth points. I have 20 build of prereqs for stuff I dont want, that is bought using stealth preregs.

Well that and adepts, spellswords have a cool capstone where as what do scouts have ?

Yes I have been arguing that Riposte is a rogue skill since playtesting. Rogues have 2.5x the abilities to trigger it, It lets us ignore position, so much more then it does for fighters Perhaps the answer is to make a rogue version of the skill "Counter attack" with the same text, only it is a...

Spell parry, Mettle and racials fill most those gaps. I noticed alot of kyn fighters around these days. Asking for a decent capstone is hardly wanting everything. when 90% of people agree it is underwhelming.

Personally as a rogue I would love more opp strike like effects, getting put into a mod, line battle, or a hallway fight is pretty not fun for us. Or at the very least a non lack luster captstone.

I love this line of thought so much. How about: Cunning attack, 10 build, 90xp in stealth required. Static effect. Once a character with this ability lands a successful attack from behind, they may consider themselves behind a target for 5 mins.