Combined Strike + Other Effects

Discussion in 'Alliance Rules 2.0 Prerelease' started by Stana, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. Stana

    Stana Scholar Marshal

    Say I'm a spellsword with a staff.

    I have 9th level Signature Spells memorized, Combined Strike, Foundation/Magistarium blow, Potency, Magic Evocation, Oak of the Archmage and Enhanced signature spell High Magic.

    Can I combine all these?

    Celestial Spellsword:
    100 Spell Strike Flame (Oak OR Combined + Enhanced Signature + Potency Flame)
    100 Arcane Strike Flame (Combined + Foundation + Enhanced Signature + Potency Flame)
    90 Spell/Arcane Strike Magic (The above, but with magic evocation, minus potency since Magic isn't an option)

    Earth Spellsword:
    100 Spell Strike Healing (Combined + Enhanced Signature + Potency Healing)
    100 Arcane Strike Healing (Combined + Magistarium + Enhanced Signature + Potency Healing)
    50 Spell Strike Body (Combined + Enhanced Signature + Potency Healing)
    45 Spell Strike Body (Combined + Enhanced Signature - Potency because it doesn't work?)
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2019
  2. Stana

    Stana Scholar Marshal

    Additionally, if they are defended against (as they were signature spells from memory), can I meditate them back?

    EDIT: No, you can't. This is pretty clearly called out and I read past it.
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2019
  3. Polare

    Polare Count Alliance Rules Moderator Seattle Staff

    Nope, none of those work. Think of it this way:

    A spell is "in memory" if it's memorized and listed on your Battleboard. You can cast it by speaking the incant and throwing it, or manifesting it via High Magic like Spell Augmentation or Elemental Augmentation.

    You can use a spell "in memory" via Combined Strike, but once you're using Combined Strike it's no longer being cast as a spell "in memory" - you've converted it to a Combined Strike spellstrike. Potency won't work on it any more, nor will Enhanced Signature spell.

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  4. KyleSchmelz

    KyleSchmelz Fighter Marshal

    I was wondering the same thing but hadn't gotten around to asking yet. I was thinking Combined Strike + Enhanced Signature Spell would make for a good Spellsword pseudo-Slay, but if it doesn't work that way I guess I'll rethink my build.
  5. MooseMasterX

    MooseMasterX Newbie New Hampshire Staff

    I have a similar question in regard to Flexible Casting and United Strike, so figured I'd ask here rather than make a new thread. Could a non signature spell be converted to a signature spell via flexible casting, then used for United Strike, or no because the signature spell is never "in memory"? Given the answer to the previous question I'm guessing the answer is it doesn't work, but wanted to confirm.
  6. Stana

    Stana Scholar Marshal

    Under the Flexible Casting description:
    A spell converted in this way cannot be combined with other skills like United Strike, Combined Strike, Enhanced Strike, or Empowered Strike. The converted spell may be placed into a Spell Store or Memory Strike Ritual.

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