alliance coin

Robb G

Exemplar
do all alliance chapters use the same coinage? same size, same markings? are the gold pieces always larger than the silver pieces?
 
i thought so too. had a weird incident happen this weekend at HQ. I'll take it up with the powers that be then. thanks.
 
I have seen some coins that I assumed were from HQ. Size was all the same, but the stamped markings had the "duchy of Ashbury" on it. I figured it was just a regional thing thing since HQ can fill a coin order all their own, so there is some precedence for 'non-standard' coin.

-joe
 
i know HQ used to have that a long time ago, but i think for the same of standardization, mike only orders the same coin as everyone else now a days. there might still be some old coin floating around with the ashbury markings... but i didn't know if any non-ashbury same-sized gold existed.
 
I also have some silver coins marked with the "Duchy of Ashbury" and it stating it is "1 Noble". I have one left over from the time that Duke Aramis sent my main to the circle and then paid him off for it. I plan on making it into a necklace someday.

Don't think they had any special gold pieces made though.

I suppose some NERO coin could have gotten into the mix. If it has a unicorn on it, then, um... I'm sorry?
 
jwconvery said:
I have seen some coins that I assumed were from HQ. Size was all the same, but the stamped markings had the "duchy of Ashbury" on it.

I love seeing those show up occasionally as my primary - a Baron out in Andar. He considers them forgeries and generally confiscates them to protect "real" coinage from dilution.
 
Polare said:
jwconvery said:
I have seen some coins that I assumed were from HQ. Size was all the same, but the stamped markings had the "duchy of Ashbury" on it.

I love seeing those show up occasionally as my primary - a Baron out in Andar. He considers them forgeries and generally confiscates them to protect "real" coinage from dilution.

Metal being metal, coins can go a looooong way timewise. And if an old player comes back or plays multiple games? I know I've accidentally pulled out the wrong game's coinage and used it someplace else...and had to catch the person who took it to exchange it for legitimate ones.
 
We had our silver coins marked "Duchy of Ashbury" way back before the Alliance. It's amazing how many are still in circulation!

I'd love to see each chapter use the same front and then each have their own backing like that, but it's really expensive to do so and just not worth it. By having all the coins the same, we can buy them in bulk and keep the costs down.
 
Are you saying that if a chapter was willing to shell out the $500 or so it would take to make a stamp for the backside of the coin and worked with the mint, it would be allowable?

Granted, that would mean that it could be refused in any other land since it wasn't the coin of their realm but just curious... ;)

Damn, I forgot about my ingots!
 
Why would it mean that it could be refused? "Gold" is still "Gold" and "Copper" is still essential for production?
 
markusdark said:
Are you saying that if a chapter was willing to shell out the $500 or so it would take to make a stamp for the backside of the coin and worked with the mint, it would be allowable?

As long as its not an alliance player doing it...shouldn't be much of a problem.
 
Gilwing said:
markusdark said:
Are you saying that if a chapter was willing to shell out the $500 or so it would take to make a stamp for the backside of the coin and worked with the mint, it would be allowable?

As long as its not an alliance player doing it...shouldn't be much of a problem.

hahaha

having a player's personal symbol be on scattered coin throughout the region: Priceless
 
Ondreij said:
Why would it mean that it could be refused? "Gold" is still "Gold" and "Copper" is still essential for production?

Because it could be considered 'counterfeit' or simply not a trusted source for the actual metal (fake coins and such). If this wasn't the case, I have about 300gp worth of old NERO coins that I could throw into the mix.

I would imagine that an actual stamped coin design would need to be approved by the local plot group before it would be allowed into the system. Now, other chapters could also decide that this is a recognized and accepted form of currency OR they could decide that it isn't. You could have some interesting times having to change out your money for local currency in order to simply get a drink at a new place.

However, before this was to happen though, a standard 'mark' should be decided upon to make it an Alliance coin - even somthing as simple as an "ALC" located in the design somewhere. Since the 'face' of the coin (the numbers) are a standard design from the mint, you could theoretically get another standard design from that mint, make a bunch and really screw up economy.

Trust me, I would have no issue with dropping the money on a new stamp with my character's name and image on it - and having plot hold onto the coins and let me swap them out with coin I find in game.
 
jpariury said:
Gilwing said:
As long as its not an alliance player doing it...shouldn't be much of a problem.
Are you certain people who work at the token mint don't play?

Working at the place is different then calling me up at my house and I sell you the coins that I make.
 
Gilwing said:
jpariury said:
Gilwing said:
As long as its not an alliance player doing it...shouldn't be much of a problem.
Are you certain people who work at the token mint don't play?

Working at the place is different then calling me up at my house and I sell you the coins that I make.

As it stands now, nothing is stopping me, as a player, from buying the Alliance coins at the mint. Especially since no special stamps are used to make them.
 
Gilwing said:
Working at the place is different then calling me up at my house and I sell you the coins that I make.
You seem be operating under two beliefs:
1 - the current person, company or group is operating under some form of exclusive distribution agreement
2 - some other person, company or group would be less professional than the current one

Why would you believe either?
 
markusdark said:
Ondreij said:
Why would it mean that it could be refused? "Gold" is still "Gold" and "Copper" is still essential for production?

Because it could be considered 'counterfeit' or simply not a trusted source for the actual metal (fake coins and such). If this wasn't the case, I have about 300gp worth of old NERO coins that I could throw into the mix.

I would imagine that an actual stamped coin design would need to be approved by the local plot group before it would be allowed into the system. Now, other chapters could also decide that this is a recognized and accepted form of currency OR they could decide that it isn't. You could have some interesting times having to change out your money for local currency in order to simply get a drink at a new place.

However, before this was to happen though, a standard 'mark' should be decided upon to make it an Alliance coin - even somthing as simple as an "ALC" located in the design somewhere. Since the 'face' of the coin (the numbers) are a standard design from the mint, you could theoretically get another standard design from that mint, make a bunch and really screw up economy.

Trust me, I would have no issue with dropping the money on a new stamp with my character's name and image on it - and having plot hold onto the coins and let me swap them out with coin I find in game.

I think you're mixing IG and OOG considerations. Which is which?
 
markusdark said:
As it stands now, nothing is stopping me, as a player, from buying the Alliance coins at the mint. Especially since no special stamps are used to make them.

Well, I told the mint to never accept orders from anyone except me. So hopefully they'll remember that.

The idea of having each campaign have their own reverse side came after my trip to Europe and seeing Euros done that way, where one side is the same and the other has a symbol from the country from which it originated. A Euro was accepted in all of the EU countries however no matter what was on the reverse side.

The problem is that it's not just the extra cost of the mold, but also that we would lose the discount for buying in bulk, as most chapters do not buy more than 5000 of any one coin at a time. And there are more important props that we should be spending our money on, if you asked me.
 
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