Warrant of Arrest

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CaptainYork

Artisan
For suspicion of Undeath, Healer Jamina I request that you remand yourself to my or my deputies authority. Failure to do so will result in capture by force. To the citizens of Shademarch, until such a time as claims can be verified Jamina is still to be treated as a citizen of Gaden and any attempts upon her life will be treated as such. Any further public discussion of the matter is moot. Order will be kept, Justice upheld.


By my authority,
Sheriff York Winters
 
Just to clarify is Jamina still free to engage in adventuring as long as she has an escort or will she be held until you believe she is no threat to anyone?
 
Wait? Confused? If she undead we kill just like other undead, right? Just cause she adventure not make her above law. She should have been brought to justice when happen. Not later! So, if lich come in and say, "My sorry, did not mean to be undead." It is ok!? That make no sense. That confuse me. Undead=Necromany=against law. Simple NO?

Quetzalli
 
Quetzalli said:
Wait? Confused? If she undead we kill just like other undead, right? Just cause she adventure not make her above law. She should have been brought to justice when happen. Not later! So, if lich come in and say, "My sorry, did not mean to be undead." It is ok!? That make no sense. That confuse me. Undead=Necromany=against law. Simple NO?

Quetzalli
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NayatiMai like you thinking. I not get either... papa, "moves mountains", tell me dat undead no have chance say sorry. And laws I not get either but wild law say undead die, no other way.

NayatiMai
Slayer of undead
 
By that same logic if someone gets charmed and attacks the town we should charge them with assault. Jamina did not do this willingly a cursed object did this to her.
 
It depend. Is charm, illegal? Necromany=Illegal. I am sure skeleton did not want to be animated into undead. But, we still put it down. We not go find family who it belong to in life and say," Oh sorry to putting down grandma". This is how law works. Black and White. Just like if slaved to someone, you responsible for action. No wiggle room. Jamina undead. She need be cleansed. How you even question?

Quetzalli
 
She needs to be cleansed. Killing her won't do that. If it would, I'd do it myself.

Briar
 
if there is no wiggle room why did the town work with the litch to get information on the whereabouts of Lady Shademarch last market day? and as far as killing a skeleton the skeleton is not looking for a way to fix itself a skeleton is mindless Jamina is not.
 
Dere was other undead? It meed die too... easiest way to clean undead is kill undead... if she have bottle thing, easy way find it... she die and pop out like when big magic guy use oogie boogie so not have death spell work.

If she healer, how we not know she not cast necromancy before and gonna do it again? If that happen, she punished then? Or Dere gonna be a people say, "oh she not mean it but she not want to die so she heal herself it okay." Then what? That mean Mai can go steal bread from baker and cow from farmer, make sandwich and say. "Oh Mai sorry, I not want die, Mai feed self with cow and bread it okay."

And if big undead cone visit... they can say" hey you come do bad stuff "and jamina say" okay I gots no choices". Dent we have bigger problem....

NayatiMai
Slayer of Undead
 
I'm sorry, did all of you mishear? The Sheriff is handling matters. He is the highest legal authority that has voiced an opinion on this matter. If you have the authority to officially change his decisions, feel free to chime in. Otherwise, further discussion is pointless. The matter is being handled. Your two cents will not affect the outcome.
 
Jamina is not using necromancy she got hit by a curse that was necromancy. by that same logic we should kill anyone hit by a cause wounds spell because it was necromancy.
 
Honored Glen'esh,

We have not formally met, of which I apologize and will rectify this at the earliest opportunity.

Respectfully, while your logical argument it sound, there are a few nuisances that need to be accounted for.

I have already quoted the law in this context before, and it is the full duty of Honored and Esteemed Sheriff York Winters to enforce that law. However, to ensure that it was not originally overlooked here it is again:

- 1) The aiding or creating of undead is illegal, and considered Necromancy, under the law of the Royal Crown of Gaden. This crime is punishable by a death including but not limited to Obliteration.

- 2) Furthermore, anyone who is an accomplice to those involved with the act of Necromancy is also subject to a punishment of death including but not limited to Obliteration.

- 3) Lastly, anyone that conspires to commit Necromancy is subject to a fine of 5 gold up to and including a single death.

- 4) Anyone involved in Perjury is subject to a 10 gold fine, plus any applicable accomplice charge to the original crime committed.

In the case of your logical analysis of an individual being subjected to a spell that harms the body, being under the immediate effect of foul magic does not in itself cause you to be in violation of the law. The person who channeled the foul magics did violate the law, not the recipient of the immediate effect.

Being turned into an undead is also illegal, and the caster has committed necromancy. Furthermore, I am sure you agree that all undead are an abomination to the natural order. According to the law of the crown, anyone who aids an undead (greater or lesser) is committing necromancy.

With that said, this is merely my own cursory assessment of the law and I fully support the Honored and Esteemed Sheriff York Winters in the full interpretation, enforcement, and execution of the law of the crown. Any efforts to impede or supersede the issued arrest warrant, by those without the legal authority to do so, will be seen as an act of perjury or treason as interpreted by the Honored and Esteemed Sheriff York Winters.

If you have any questions on my assessment of the situation, I encourage you to reach out to me privately.

May the Light guide you and may Shadow guard your path.

Arcanist Dure'dhel
Warlock of the Royal Celestial Guild of Gaden
 
Mai would like to point out dat, I not trying to change out come. I trying understand what learned people think is good when Mai taught by her tribe dat somethings are bad and not have chance to be good. Mai from place where undead are really big and like eat little people like us. In home place undead not help us, undead not be accident, and undead destroy tribes and villages. I sorry if people not understand that Mai only like see undead destroyed, it how I was raised.

Mai simply pointing out dat people should think about all bad things dat could happen before sumting happen and then all are wonder why.

NayatiMai
Slayer of Undead
 
Adventurers,

I apparently neglected to mention that there are mixed reports as to whether Jamina has been corrupted or is under the influence of a mind-altering affect. Until this has been sorted out, no action is to be taken. As I am sure you can understand, it would be unthinkable to assault someone who was merely confused or not in their right state of mind.

May the Light guide you and may Shadow guard your path.

Arcanist Dure'dhel
Warlock of the Royal Celestial Guild of Gaden
 
I'm sure we can all talk about the unique situation Jamina finds herself in at length on the fair day coming up but I do have one question what is she being Arrested for?
Sheriff York was kind enough to send a copy of the Laws of Gaden to me and while reading though it i found something odd. The law is as follows
-Necromancy – The aiding or creating of undead or the use of any magic, item, or potion which calls upon the powers of chaos, or has been created through Necromancy. The possession of any item considered Necromantic in nature is also illegal.
Oddly enough being undead is absent. so even if she is undead as long as she does not use necromancy she has yet to break any laws strange as that may sound.
 
I tink dat...

Being UNDEAD makes you an ITEM of NECROMANTIC NATURE.

NayatiMai
Slayer of Undead
 
I dare zay an Item of Necrromazi would have no spirit, which in the case of most undead iz true enough. Vut thiz vone doez have a spirit. Vut ofcourse that is assuming she has been transformed into an undead at all. She may vut ve confused. That is why as my brother sayz we must be patient, thorough, and careful in our actions. I for vone vish to do right by Jamina. That iz my only concern.

May the light guide you and the shadow gaurd your path...

Kitaruen Kopanari
 
Here an idea from de undead hunter:

De Sherriff should go poke her wif an earth blade....

If she say "ow" she undead.

If she not get hurt she not undead.

It's dat easy.

NayatiMai
Slayer of Undead

p.s. I could also sniff her for ya.
 
Me thinks that we talking differnt things.

First thing: If Jamenia is undead. Why she not broght in for cleansing right away? Does not bring her in mean others also make with crime of Necromancy? Who was stupid enough to let friend just walk away and mabye be tool or controlled by undead guy?
Second thing: If Jamenia is undead, and town try to clean her, then will they offer same to every intellegent undead that drops by? So, will town ask every Lich, Ghoul, Ghast, Shadow, Vampire, Wright, and others if they want to be cleansed? And if not why Jamina get special treatment? That not fair! And it feels wrong. If town decided that every undead that they meet can talk they will offer to give Life then fine. If not, then some town folk are giving fellow town folk unfa,ir what word me look for....they dis crime in ate. I trust Sheriff guy will make right decision with Noble persons but, this makes example of how town treat undead in future. This important. And this zample on other 'crimes'. That why me asking so many questions.

Quetzalli
 
first off Jamina is a citizen of Gaden and is therefore under the protection of it's laws.
Secondly Quetzalli, you have no authority on the town's laws or policies about how it treats anything. Sheriff York and his deputies will handle the enforcement of the law. you know the law the one you were saying was all black and white and needed to be followed till I brought up that being undead is not brought up under Necromancy and you said there is no wiggle room when it comes to the laws.
Third NayatiMai, you clam that being undead makes you an item a sentient being can not be an item because that is Slavery. Jamina is Romani and if I have learned one thing about their culture from traveling is someone who is Romani never stops being Romani as you can see the Romani or as it is written here "Gypsies" are a Sentient race and cannot be items since being an item requires the assumption that she can be owned.
Sentient Beings – Sentient Beings are legally defined as a member of the following races and no others – Human, Barbarian, Gypsies, High Orcs, High Ogres, Biata, Stone Elves, Sarr, Wylderkyn, Hoblings, Dryads, Dark Elves, Elves, Dwarves and Mystic Wood Elves
Slavery – The buying or selling or ownership of any sentient being. The use of enslavement elixirs is also slavery.
 
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