Why is Eternal Resolution an Armor-only ritual?

Discussion in 'Alliance Rules 2.0 Prerelease' started by Stana, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. Stana

    Stana Scholar Marshal

    It doesn't seem to fit the theme... resolution feels like an "I don't need to wear armor" style skill, and it's racial counterpart Focused Resistance doesn't have a similar requirement of target types.

    Feels really out of place, is all I'm saying.
     
  2. Alkalin3

    Alkalin3 Administrator Chief Technology Officer South Michigan Staff Marshal

    We should have more armor rituals. I think there's not enough. We should have more shield rituals, I think there's not enough.

    Resolute as a defensive physical power, and this as an extra bump to that defensive power feels well enough to me to justify it being an an armor slot, with armor generally being the place where defensive physical rituals go.

    So to me it feels fine.
     
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  3. Stana

    Stana Scholar Marshal

    I see your point, but Eternal Resolution seems like an exception. All the other armor-only rituals are things that directly effect armor. If it was more uniform, Empower Warrior should be weapon-only, Counterspell and Magic Evocation should be spellbook-only, and so on.

    Having more -type specific rituals (I'd love to see 2h, small/short, ranged specific rituals) is great and thematic, but they should apply to the -type they are part of. Nothing about Eternal Resolution is tied to needing to wear a physical suit of armor.
     
  4. Alkalin3

    Alkalin3 Administrator Chief Technology Officer South Michigan Staff Marshal

    I agree. Empowered Warrior should be weapon only.

    I look at it as a starting place. I think generally speaking it's a good idea to be wearing physical armor as a fighter now, and it's something the game generally encourages.
    I actually think this is a pretty solid ritual as it generates a lot for the slot. So, by limiting it to the armor slot you're doing a couple things.

    • Not allowing folks who have arcane to access it.
    • Disallowing folks to have a 1x on a coin or something in their bag.

    As you need to either find a suit with this on it (and deal with whatever imperfections that suit may have relative to your build) or build your own.
    Given that this is a combat heal, and on that combos with other things (Heroic interception), making it a bit less accessible generally feels fine to me.
     
  5. Draven

    Draven Count Seattle Staff Marshal

    Does the text prohibit activation if it’s not your active armor?

    If not, I could wear a 1 pt leather bracer and use Arcane Armor, and still activate it.
     
  6. Gandian Ravenscroft

    Gandian Ravenscroft Knight Chicago Staff Marshal

    I believe it was clarified somewhere that you must be utilizing the armor tag of the enchanted armor to use the armor-targetting rituals.
     
  7. Gilwing

    Gilwing Baron Alliance Logistics

    Is this an exception? You don't need OHE to use a ritual on a sword, unless you do now.
     
  8. Draven

    Draven Count Seattle Staff Marshal

    More accurately, there are weapon-specific rituals that don’t require a weapon skill (Battlemage strike or Memory Strike). You’d need that skill for Raging Blow or any Imbuement, though.
     
  9. Gandian Ravenscroft

    Gandian Ravenscroft Knight Chicago Staff Marshal

    I'm not positive about it one way or the other, but this thread here definitely discusses the "must wear physical armor to use armor rituals" subject.
     
  10. tieran

    tieran Duke Gettysburg Staff Marshal

    You have previously needed the skill to use weapon specific rituals that were on a weapon.

    If you had a mace, for instance, with a damage aura on it, you couldn’t swing the mace for damage unless you had an appropriate weapon skill.

    Same with spell parry.

    I think the only real exception to that was channel.
     
  11. Gilwing

    Gilwing Baron Alliance Logistics

    Spell strikes, spell store, AA, any ritual that could target <item>.
     
  12. Draven

    Draven Count Seattle Staff Marshal

    Tieran specifically referred to Weapon-only rituals in his first line.
     
  13. tieran

    tieran Duke Gettysburg Staff Marshal

    He’s not wrong. Lol
     
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  14. Gilwing

    Gilwing Baron Alliance Logistics

    Except where I quoted u talking about channel being the only real exception....which is not a weapon only ritual, so you can see how I didnt think you were referring to "weapon only" rituals.
     
  15. KyleSchmelz

    KyleSchmelz Fighter Marshal

    Channel Spell is 100% a weapon-only ritual. You even mentioned spell strikes in your post, which is what Channel Spell is.
     
  16. tieran

    tieran Duke Gettysburg Staff Marshal

    This guy is also correct.
     
  17. Gilwing

    Gilwing Baron Alliance Logistics

    Oops. Ur correct. I don't know why I was thinking "expand enchantment". Thanks for correcting me and @tieran thanks for being an a$$ ;)
     
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  18. tieran

    tieran Duke Gettysburg Staff Marshal

    Don’t get short with me!:)
     
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  19. Gilwing

    Gilwing Baron Alliance Logistics

    OUTCH. I didnt say u were being fat with me. Damn dude. Cut me deep :p
     
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  20. Gilwing

    Gilwing Baron Alliance Logistics

    Btw I'm cracking up at my desk after reading this.

    Edit: I'm home, still cracking up about it
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2019 at 6:46 PM
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