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Sym of Moria said:If you are a guy or a gal and want to play a tentacle monster.... go to monster camp.
or be an octopus/squid-kin
Sym of Moria said:If you are a guy or a gal and want to play a tentacle monster.... go to monster camp.
That is specifically not a legitimate solution to "is it a dwarf or a dude with a beard", though. We have a flat rule - no real beard, no playing a dude with a beard. If asking is allowed for determining the sex of a character, why shouldn't it be allowed for determining their race?Inaryn said:Easy answer... ask.
Mobius said:"Love: This causes the victim to fall deeply in love with the next member of the appropriate sex seen." ARB 119
jpariury said:That is specifically not a legitimate solution to "is it a dwarf or a dude with a beard", though. We have a flat rule - no real beard, no playing a dude with a beard. If asking is allowed for determining the sex of a character, why shouldn't it be allowed for determining their race?Inaryn said:Easy answer... ask.
jpariury said:The rules do distinguish between men and women in two specific instances: Love and Love 9. Both require that I fall in love with someone "of the appropriate sex". I need to know whether or not I should be writing bad poetry to Kondrick when he's the first person I see and he's got on wig, extended eyelashes, and an inch thick of rouge.
dreadpiratebill said:I'm going to go ahead and be the bad guy here and present an angle I think may have been over looked. Publicity.
We're already a fairly fringe subsect with a mixed immage to non LARPers. We try to promote ourselves as a fun, safe time and "family friendly" (18+ chapters non withstanding). From a publicity and game image standpoint, do we want to associate cross dressing with our organization? If someone was on the fence about becomming a new member do you think guys (or girls) in drag would be a plus or a minus in that regard. How would that look like to a parent to a prospective minor (16-17) who's comming to cheak us out before alowing their kid to come to the game?
We can say "if done tastefuly" but realy we can't. Rules have to exist for the "lowest common denominator" meaning that even tho person A might do it well and make it work, we have to be ready for person B who is going to piss someone off, and will use person A as their "but he/she gets to do it." We can't play favorites. Same reason we don't allow potentialy dangerous acrobatics. Yeah you might have 7 years experience, but numb skull 23465 who sees you and trys it will get himself killed. Rules apply to everyone equaly.
--bill
PS: I'd like to add that I personaly don't give a rats one way or the other from a gameplay standpoint. I would be concerned about potential image related concerns tho.
Robb Graves said:hat's like saying in order to be family friendly we can't have gay relationships in alliance because a new player on the fence might see two ladies pawing at each other and be offended.
Evan and Chas are saying that they would be uncomfortable if, by the rules, they had to play being Loved to a male who was playing a female, ergo, they feel that players should not be allowed to play the sex opposite what they are. I disagree, but their disagreement has nothing to do with "appropriate sex".Robb Graves said:read the rule posted above. it doesn't say opposite sex. it says appropriate sex.
Chasmania said:Actually, I'd be fine with players playing opposite sexes as long as there be something about a player being allowed to opt out of taking a Love from someone of the same OOG sex.
Robb Graves said:read the rule posted above. it doesn't say opposite sex. it says appropriate sex.
Robb Graves said:and i don't buy the "family friendly" line. that's like saying in order to be family friendly we can't have gay relationships in alliance because a new player on the fence might see two ladies pawing at each other and be offended.
Jim said:Robb Graves said:read the rule posted above. it doesn't say opposite sex. it says appropriate sex.
Robb, they are saying this.
Paul PC is playing a female character, Esther Elf. Evan's character then gets loved and see Esther Elf first. Esther Elf is the appropriate sex, however Paul PC is not the appropriate sex. Evan is saying he is not comfortable role-playing that. My personal thoughts on that would likely get me banned from the board.
My question to Evan would be if he would have that same level of uncomfortable feeling if the player was trans and simply playing a character who matched their gender.
JP: I hear what you are saying but I disagree that the logical conclusion for a rule about sex of characters would have to match the one about racial disguises. Also, at the end of the day transvestism is a fetish and gender identity disorder is well, a psychological disorder. If anything isn't going to be allowed, it should be transvestism.
Dreadpiratebill: Are you suggesting that we force a transgendered player to play characters that match their physical sex and not their gender for publicity's sake? If so, shame on you.
Mobius said:Love is almost a stand-alone in that it is a very powerful Role-Play Only effect and has no other In Game Consequences. The closest analogue is Charm, but Charm deals with neither Agape nor Eros and, as such, can be comfortably roleplayed without the deeper connotations associated with Love.