Inaryn
Virtuoso
SF does representative locks. They still don't come up as often, but they definitely made picking locks more accessible to more people. (Accessibility wasn't the reason we went that way, but if the shoe fits...)
[.11] Seattle | November 9-11 | Thoughts and musings
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SF does representative locks. They still don't come up as often, but they definitely made picking locks more accessible to more people. (Accessibility wasn't the reason we went that way, but if the shoe fits...)
Muir
Elite
In the same vein, how often do you see a physical challenge mod? One where the player has to be able to, say, run a mile at the drop of a hat to succeed, or climb a tree, or deadlift a couple hundred pounds?
Traps remain one of the few parts of the game reliant almost entirely on oog factors to be engaged with.
Draven
Pioneer
I see people stick-fighting all the time.
"Surprising Strike ..... it allows someone whose Out Of Game fighting skills are not great to land some basic hits on an opponent for an XP cost."
I understand where you are coming from on the stick-fighting, but stick fighting is a huge part of the game, as well as very build intensive. To me, the way the traps work seems a bit like having to weave chainmail to repair armor, or gather plants to use herbal lore.
To me it is very weird that explosive traps are the basically the only way to do unavoidable damage that also is AOE, and destroys stuff. Dragon Magic Obliterate can be dodged, but not a 40 copper trap.
Also, at least for me, getting blown up by a trap is NOT fun. Especially when it can be someone else setting it off by accident. In addition to losing a bunch of stuff, it can take you out of the mod/fight. Oh your Weapon/armor/arrows weren't rendered? Guess you don't get to play the game until you find a replacement. I know Zeth was out his relic for a big chunk of time because of that. When I think back on the worst experiences I have had at the larp, 2 of the worst 5 were trap related. Because they were punishing and random. At lest when Cardio Tree shatter spirited me, I could have had skills or magic items, or just run away better.
Draven
Pioneer
Zeth was only out his relic (and a whole lotta potions and a single gold piece) because Zeth didn’t know that traps were game-room wide.
It was an expensive learning experience, but I think there needs to be a danger of loss in order to make victory feel good.
Traps reward people who do trap builds, and it should do that. Cheap ritual solutions are exactly why pocket healers are bad for the game. Same philosophy applies.
It was an expensive learning experience, but I think there needs to be a danger of loss in order to make victory feel good.
Traps reward people who do trap builds, and it should do that. Cheap ritual solutions are exactly why pocket healers are bad for the game. Same philosophy applies.
What does a trap disarming build look like? Don't they just need 1 level of Create Trap?
And that is my point. The ability to avoid traps is a 3-6 pt skill and a lot of out of game ability. This isn't pocket healers. This is giving everyone reading.
Draven
Pioneer
My spellsword build has 20 picks of Crit Attack, currently, which basically boils down to 40 minutes of swinging for 10 instead of 5.
Unless we get another event to test it, though, I don’t know the viability. I know a lot of people are against tracking Crit/BA or think it’s too expensive to be viable, but I disagree with those assessments.
We had a player in August who ran like 15 or something BA & Crits. Would be swinging 2s all day, and then drop 10 of each (whatever ritual that was) and start pumping out huge damage from behind. He loved the build.
Alkalin3
Virtuoso
Most fighters jump into stealth for alchemy -> Dodge. Some also hit up create trap for a second dodge. You get more evades along the way too. It's a good way to eat up a lot of xp if you're happy with fighter stuff.
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Draven
Pioneer
I don’t know that a lot of fighters feel like they have to. I think that Alchemy fighters are already not uncommon, and between the new poison rituals and Stealth xp to dodge possibility makes it only more attractive.
Is it useful? Undoubtedly. But that 40 XP drop in Stealth could have been 10 Slay/IS combos. Or a bunch of defensives. They’re trading that for some trick skills, and I don’t think that’s particularly broken.
Alkalin3
Virtuoso
Trade out most with "a lot".
There's a lot more class boundary breaking. I think it's a really good thing. It creates more unique and interesting characters in combat. I've seen some Rogues pick up a prof or 2. Same kind of thing with Adepts. Getting to 5's feels worth it vs 2's.
I can see the value in dropping 10 crits but, it's a pricy endeavor. We didn't see a ton of crit usage at our playtests.
There's a lot more class boundary breaking. I think it's a really good thing. It creates more unique and interesting characters in combat. I've seen some Rogues pick up a prof or 2. Same kind of thing with Adepts. Getting to 5's feels worth it vs 2's.
I can see the value in dropping 10 crits but, it's a pricy endeavor. We didn't see a ton of crit usage at our playtests.
Tantarus
Virtuoso
I dont think we saw any. It is super lackluster use of built. Much like it is in 1.3.