I think the key word in the rulebook here is "Ingested." I believe the intent is that a Poison Shield does not go off if you drink a Weapon Coating, but it will go off when struck by a Poison-coated attack.
[.10] - Relics impressions
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DiscOH
Artisan
"It will not protect against ingested elixirs, Weapon Coatings, or Contact Gels such as Oils of Slipperiness or Pastes of Stickiness." -pg 121
Draven
Count
I don't think the ARB would assume one would ingest a Weapon Coating or a Contact Gel, so I believe the descriptor "ingested" was purely in reference in elixirs.
We can certainly discuss it in the Marshal forum, though.
Grammatically, it could mean either thing, and I'm more inclined to believe the rules intend for Poison Shields to work against Poison-coated attacks. Spirit vs. Letter, yo.
Draven
Count
Please don't correct me on Spirit vs. Letter. I'm fully aware of our priorities as a fellow Marshal.
My point is that it's entirely possible that the Spirit of the rules is to allow Weapon coatings (already blocked by Magic Armor) to not be blocked by another dumb defense.
Again, I would advise we take this discussion to the Marshal forum.
mythic
Baron
Just a quick note on Poison Shield and then we can get back to Relics:
ARB Page 108-109 (emphasis mine)
In order for a target to be affected by these
weapon poisons, the strike must do body damage
to the target. This effect is for one strike
only and can be resisted or blocked by a Poison
Shield or a Magic Armor (or in the case of
certain races, possibly by racial Resists). If a
Poison Shield, a Magic Armor, or a racial Resist
stops the weapon poison, the target will not
take any damage from the weapon blow. When
using these weapon poisons, the correct call is
“<damage> <poison name> Poison.”
ARB Page 108-109 (emphasis mine)
In order for a target to be affected by these
weapon poisons, the strike must do body damage
to the target. This effect is for one strike
only and can be resisted or blocked by a Poison
Shield or a Magic Armor (or in the case of
certain races, possibly by racial Resists). If a
Poison Shield, a Magic Armor, or a racial Resist
stops the weapon poison, the target will not
take any damage from the weapon blow. When
using these weapon poisons, the correct call is
“<damage> <poison name> Poison.”
Draven
Count
To keep this on track, <insert "ugh" face at the mention of flex casting for earth casters, because Inaryn and I have our lines in the sand on this one!>.
Tantarus
Knight
Man, if only there was some kinda preexisting, well used and tested thing, that could be easily mirrored, that fit that description some kinda stick or wand....
I want to quote this again, just for how much I love the idea. Can we have this please? I would like to have this.
Samyania
Scholar
I'd like a Death on the Death relic, but I like Options more.
Draven
Count
I agree, though I feel the only real solution would be to calculate Relic charges differently than Wand charges into a formula that's easier to track on the fly. I mean, we're not going to get a usable resource that doesn't require some sort of numeric tracking.
Saephis
Squire
Sure, and basing the pool around Earth's Bounty and adjusting accordingly seems a decent enough route to attempt to avoid system-bloat, the numeric charge side just would need to be adjusted (especially as its already deficient to Celestial in damage output vs healing output, IIRC). 5-10-15-20 charge-costs, for instance, are much easier to track if the given pool is appropriately sized.
To @Samyania 's point, I would switch out Destruction for Death in the Death tree. It's already going to be more resistant than the spell variant (original?), and having "take some additional damage" as the capstone for a (admittedly short) tree seems odd, when a Silence hitting a scholar is often as good as death.
To @Samyania 's point, I would switch out Destruction for Death in the Death tree. It's already going to be more resistant than the spell variant (original?), and having "take some additional damage" as the capstone for a (admittedly short) tree seems odd, when a Silence hitting a scholar is often as good as death.
Draven
Count
That is definitely not my experience. I haven't been afraid of Silence for several levels. Since it's niche, I've got potions of Remove Silence/Magic Augment Purify at the ready to deal with it. Silence is certainly annoying, but it really shouldn't be fatal with adequate preparation.
Edit: C Casters who don't memorize Magic Augment Dispel for the same situation...well, that's on them, I guess.